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Eric Member

Posted: December 15, 2011 6:10 AM

Hi!

What DOCTYPE versions are (fully) supported by your current release of the WebGrid? We would like to switch to HTML 4.01 Strict and know the the current version of WebGrid we have (version 6 I think) only supports HTML 4.0 Transitional. With "fully support" I don't mean to manually enter quirks mode or stuff like that.

Can you give a list of all fully supported DOCTYPEs and the known limitations related to your control? With limitations I mean for example using 100% width or height and auto-resizing features etc. In some other threads you say some features don't work, because "it's a limitation of the DOCTYPE", so I would like to know these details before switching DOCTYPE in the entire application and before buying a new WebGrid version.

Thanks, Eric

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Yudi Member

Posted: December 15, 2011 3:55 PM in response to Eric

WebGrid supports HTML 4.0 Transitional doctype and XHTML 1.0 Transitional doctype. The sample of WebGrid shows that there are no issues appearing on those two doctype.

Should you have any problem on a specific scenario, please kindly let us know. We might be able to help you by providing the hotfix or workaround.

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Eric Member

Posted: December 16, 2011 4:52 AM in response to Yudi

Hi Yudi, thanks for your reply. So in other words, any Strict doctype is not supported. Did I get that right? Is support for that planned for the future? We need to get away from these old Transitional doctypes and right now only WebGrid stops us from doing so.

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Yudi Member

Posted: December 18, 2011 1:58 PM in response to Eric

I made a test by creating a page containing simple WebGrid and uses XHTML Strict doctype. So far there is no problem when the browser renders the page. However, the test is not thoroughly done to all the features of WebGrid.

I will forward this to WebGrid development team in order to confirm whether WebGrid support the strict doctype or not; if not, will these type of doctype will be supported in the future?

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Eric Member

Posted: December 19, 2011 3:34 AM in response to Yudi

I would like to use "HTML 4.01 Strict", but even XHTML Strict is an option. Thanks for forwarding and please keep this thread updated when you have an answer. Thanks.

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Yudi Member

Posted: December 20, 2011 1:16 AM in response to Eric

Sure, Eric. J
I haven’t received any news from the team yet. But I’m sure that they will soon respond to the strict doctype question.

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Eric Member

Posted: August 13, 2013 4:42 AM in response to Yudi

Any update? Does the 2012R2 version support DOCTYPE "HTML 4.01 strict" now or still not?

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Yudi Member

Posted: August 13, 2013 10:31 PM in response to Eric

The Intersoft WebUI Studio 2012 R2 for ASP.NET doesn’t support HTML 4.01 strict doctype. However, it now supports html5 doctype.

Hope this helps.

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Eric Member

Posted: August 14, 2013 5:08 AM in response to Yudi

Hmm. You mean the <!DOCTYPE html>? I'm afraid that is not understood by even IE8 or IE9. It might simply get ignored and the browser falls back to Quirks mode, transitional mode or some other compatibility mode then. That's exactly what we want to avoid. We want to be compatible with as many browsers as possible (without much testing), so the only way to achieve that is by making sure not to fall back to such old modes - so that we notice the problems in IE already. HTML5 is no standard yet, so we would have to set it to HTML4.01 strict, but that is still not supported as you say. We might need to switch to another vendor then.

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Yudi Support

Posted: September 18, 2013 5:33 AM in response to Eric

In version 8, WebGrid has been refined to fully support the latest web standards. This allows developers to use WebGrid features in their HTML5 doc type web application.

You can evaluate WebGrid with the HTML5 doc type by browse to one of WebGrid live sample such as: Enterprise.aspx sample. IE9 doesn’t ignore the doctype and doesn’t fallback to Quirks mode.

As far as I know, HTML5 doc type does trigger standards mode in browsers. Although it is not yet an official standard but all major browsers (Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, Chrome, Opera) continue to add new HTML5 features to their latest versions.

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